Like the people who are listening are like, "Wait, who's the senator?". And I want to learn your sort of lessons about how to live in the face of these kinds of threats. J. Edgar Hoover, head of the FBI, announces it. That --, Rachel Maddow: -- like, technical suspense? "Chris is always good he deserves a much bigger national reputation. Chris Hayes: -- but that creates this constant sense of curiosity. Rachel Maddow: Exactly. So I hadn't gotten the actual cuts of the first two episodes. Chris Hayes: Hello and welcome to "Why Is This Happening?" You could do the whole thing on William Dudley Pelley in the Silver Shirts, which is a crazy story. Rachel Maddow MSNBC 4 Anderson Cooper Big Government Jake Tapper 5 Christiane Amanpour James O'Keefe Joy Reid 6 Pope Francis Sean Hannity Chris Hayes 7 Dr Sanjay Gupta Raheem Emma Gonzlez 8 CNNMoney Joel B. Pollak Markos Moulitsas 9 Jake Tapper Ann Coulter Maggie Haberman 10 Brian Stelter Allum Bokhari And the marrying of those two things, a violent threat to overthrow the U.S. government multiple plots along those lines --, Chris Hayes: Hoarding guns, training with those guns and weapons, ordnance, I mean --. Theyre not sending their best. This isn't good." B, you can petition your local city council and police to take action within the existing law and without violating the right of free speech against the incitements to riot from the Christian Front. I feel like this idea that we're dealing with pro-authoritarian impulses on the right as connected to electoral politics, that being some sort of unprecedented challenge, it doesn't feel unprecedented to me. And I just go, "This is what its like to go on vacation.". And actually, it's amazing, you know, that the Oath Keepers sedition trial is going on --, Rachel Maddow: -- right now. And now you're working harder than you were working at the job that was killing you before. He always deliberately keeps his show going one or two minutes into her time slot. They've arrested these guys and put them on trial for sedition because they were stockpiling bombs and working with stolen military heavy machine guns, and they had a plot to simultaneously assassinate 12 members of Congress and violently attack armories and U.S. government outposts and take over the U.S. government, 80 years to the day from the Christian Front to the Oath Keepers sedition arrest. Like, please, because thats like --. Meanwhile, MSNBC's All in with Chris Hayes drew 1.57 million at 8 pm and Last Word averaged 1.79 million at 10 pm. I feel like there has been real ultraright pro-authoritarian radicalism adjacent to Republican electoral politics for longer than we admitted. Chris Hayes: As opposed to, like, no, liberal democracy is a hard thing to maintain. Rachel Maddow graduated from Stanford University, worked as an HIV/AIDS activist, received a Rhodes Scholarship, and earned a doctorate in political science from Oxford. January 20th is inauguration. Chris Hayes, Nico Parker: N/A: Late Show Presents: Meanwhile. It's like, you could leave the job but, like, the you follows you. Jack Davis is a freelance writer who joined The Western Journal in July 2015 and chronicled the campaign that saw President Donald Trump elected. Chris Hayes: Well, that gets to something fascinating to me because we use the term "lost to history." August 14, 2022 12:13pm. And also the theology around tyranny and sedition, being a nuanced thing that Coughlin was very cognizant of and was playing with, even as his followers were being put on trial for sedition for having them what he told them to do. As Hayes wrapped up his 8:00 p.m. show, he passed the baton to his 9:00 p.m. successor, who then immediately alluded to an earlier conversation the pair had earlier in the day. Not one of them touched the green pepper he'd cut up for. Rachel Maddow: Who will appoint the necessary strong man? Do you remember what it was like? Today, Rachel Maddow writes about the future of election integrity. By Juli Weiner. I think there needs to be a bigger, broader, anti-fascist movement where people actually have work to do every day in trying to fight fascism and save the country, she urged. Rachel Maddow: -- if you are on trial, it means you --, Rachel Maddow: -- to overthrow the government and failed and the extent government is now trying you for having tried and failed to do it. Like, there was a weird moment around the birth of American Holocaust denial and accountability for actual Nazis, not allegorical Nazis, but the real Nazi leadership that brought me to this moment. Justice Department can only speak through its actions in court. MSNBC anchor Rachel Maddow plans to take a hiatus in order to focus on other projects, including podcasting and serving as executive producer for a movie, Business Insider reported Monday.. That's awesome. Chris Hayes: -- by Reverend Alson J. Smith --. Completing this poll entitles you to The Western Journal news updates free of charge. Fritz Kuhn is the head of the German American Bund, and he does get locked up as the U.S. is heading toward war in World War II. His full name is Christopher Loffredo. The 8 p.m. MSNBC show hosted by Chris Hayes averaged a 1.4 rating in June, down slightly from a 1.5 in May. And as such, your failed plot is a failed plot and can be minimized as unserious --, Rachel Maddow: -- and unthreatening. I mean, theres a role to play for all these different kinds of Americans who bring their whole civic selves to this fight. Last night, both Chris Hayes and Rachel Maddow interviewed activists drawn to D.C. this week to advocate for gun control because they have personal experience with mass-shootings. Chris Hayes: -- like, Im not doing anything. Eleanor Roosevelt is writing a newspaper column, at the time, as first lady. Prosecution does not work and that prosecutor, having been through all those different of the ringer ends up breaking all the rules. Its, to me, a bigger truth to realize there was a whole lot of them, and they were all meeting those needs in different ways. Discover will be the first credit card company to use a new merchant identification code that will show purchases made at gun stores. And some of them were activists and infiltrators, and anti-fascist movement participants. Back in August, the Hollywood Reporter and the Daily Beast reported that Maddow signed a new multi-year deal with MSNBC. How are you going to take this very distinct, particular, you know, I think generational ability to tell stories in other fashions and forms and genres. And I ended up in the weird part of American Republican Party politics where they were against the Nuremberg trials. Lundeen gets run out of literally on a rail out of his congressional district for opposing World War I, which is a very different thing than opposing World War II --, And what I find fascinating about is like the ideological trajectory of these figures around this time and how people navigate through, once everything is presented is on the table, right? What more can we say? Rachel Maddow: -- and freaks and crooks and, you know, people who dont pay their taxes. Where is the threat to walk out, to boycott, to stand on principle, by Rachel Maddow? Chris hosts programs like beat with Chris Hayes, a weekday news and opinion television program on MSNBC. That was 1940, and then by 1941, we were in World War II, and we moved on. Thats like hes a multiple of the Super Bowl every week in terms of --. I was burning myself out physically and mentally in a way that meant that I was not going to be able to keep doing this for very long. If you listen to Bagman, it'll be familiar, but it's also different and new. Rachel Maddow: -- your story and learn it. Rachel Maddow: That makes for a good booze ballad. Multiple outlets have reported over the last few weeks that Chris Hayes is going to be canceled, but the story has taken a new turn with sources inside MSNBC saying that Rachel Maddow will be . And there are Americans who went before us who were as smart or smarter, as funny or funnier, more nimble, more interesting, more capable, and who saved us from this last time around, and we should learn how they did it. What was that Howard Stern bit (ph)? That's how we got the Foreign Agent Registration Act. And his training is all in the clan, right. There are parts about fascist rhetoric that are compelling in their own twisted terrible way. A joke kills, they keep it. Chris Hayes: We should talk about, since its mentioned, the title is "The Christian Front: Coughlins Storm Troopers," and maybe we should talk a little bit of Coughlin because he is a key figure. Rachel Maddow: The clan is a fascist terrorist movement --, Rachel Maddow: -- in this country. Thats a very compelling story. Rachel Maddow: Yeah. Rachel Maddow: And so I think, talking about Coughlin, I mean, his newspaper is called "Social Justice" --, Rachel Maddow: -- right? They do that over and over in the workrooms and the app gets better and better and tighter and tighter, and the really good ones come up with something amazing that they could show up at any room across the country and kill. I think you and I cherish it, not everyone does, but that theres some really important lines here about you can write a pamphlet saying Donald Trump should. And who do they bring into that cleanup? Rachel Maddow: Theres a great book called "Nazis of Copley Square" written by Charles Gallagher, whos a Jesuit priest who teaches at Boston College. So these sort of grand ideological battles, first against Nazis and fascism, then against communism, and then of course, like, the ultimate victory of liberal democracy as a kind of like teleological story about human development, which we basically all get, like, whether we know it or not --. And so, deciding that we won in the war --, Rachel Maddow: -- and, therefore, that vanquished --, Rachel Maddow: And all Americans came around --. Some were acquitted, the rest were off in a mistrial. Chris Hayes: All right. Hey, mom, yeah, but I did. Rachel Maddow: -- 10 years he was chancellor. Rachel Maddow: Yeah. And I'm hoping, in some ways, that learning the history of other Americans who've done it well can give us some energy. Chris Hayes: -- transparent work product in the world. They didn't want Nazi war criminals being put on trial because that was unfair to the Nazis. Justice Department caves, fires the prosecutor. And I was just like, OK, well. But I'll tell you, the name of the secretary. Chris Hayes: Well, and it also, I mean, the obvious resonance is here with the current day. Chris Hayes: -- tools of liberal democracy. Great reason --. Politico obtained a purported majority opinion draft of the Supreme Court showing that the court is poised to overturn the 1973 landmark decision Roe v. Wade which legalizes abortions in all states up to the point of fetal viability24-28 weeks gestation. And then the Cold War, right? Like, over the generations actually, the people who are the worst actors in this ultra-right sphere of American politics are thieves. I can keep doing what I'm doing. It was stopped when the FBI arrested these perpetrators on January 17th, right. 715: March 20, 2019 () Paul Giamatti, Senator Doug Jones: Aparna Nancherla: Doin' It Donkey Style. In its zeal to pin the blame for its own incompetence and for Epsteins crimes on Maxwell, the Government breached its promise. And he gets locked up for embezzling from the German American Bund because, I mean --, Rachel Maddow: -- one of the historic truths that you keep bumping up against is that a lot of people who have fascist and authoritarian impulses and move in these directions, theyre also grifters and --. Chris Hayes: More of our conversation after this quick break. . Rachel Maddow: Chris, it's very nice. Chris Hayes is married to Kate Shaw, a professor of law at the Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law at Yeshiva University in Manhattan. They have their first daughter named Ryan Elizabeth Shaw-Hayes born in November 2011. Rachel Maddow: That makes for a great political speech. And so you're focused on that name. I was really interested in some of the sort of deep, radical right, ultra-right stuff that was happening in the country in the post-World War II era leading into the Reagan era. The internet went into a frenzy, and as show time approached, Maddow tweeted that the tax return in question was Trump's 1040 from 2005. Here in the televisual medium for a very, very special, exciting episode, I'm going to start with a sports metaphor, if you'll indulge me. Its hard. The 11th Hour with Stephanie . Rachel Maddow: I just took this long-haul train trip with my family as our family vacation. And the demand, I am very obsessed in the notion of like the demand side for fascism as opposed to supply side --. The accompanying text read:. But they expected to go forward with this armed effort to stop the transfer of power in the United States. And I was like, I feel like I would know if that happened. Rachel Maddow: Yes, its a piece of it --, Rachel Maddow: -- and its not the end all, be all. As noted by conservative commentator Todd Starnes, Hayes in the past had linked Trump supporters to the swastika. Do you buy the explanation of the presence of the swastika on the desk? Chris Hayes discusses All In and recent politics. Rachel Maddow: -- answer whatever e-mails I need to answer that pertain to this evening, and then shutoff and not turn on again until the workday starts again. Chris Hayes: But when youre dealing with something this existential and this core to both the life blood of what liberal democracy is that that system may not be that well-equipped to do it. But those folks didn't change their views once the Japanese bombed us in Hawaii. Rachel Maddow: Yeah. And then you talk about somebody you seen as like running the ideological member line, right? Chris Hayes: But, like, where everyone was on Hitler and Nazis in '39, '40s, I guess, what I'm saying, is like a very different thing than where everyone is on Hitler and Nazis in '44. When I go on vacation, I take Twitter off my phone and I don't know what's happening in the world. It can be stopped now before it acquires the prestige of success. "Rachel Maddow, you've got some explaining to do," Ball said, but Maddow hasn't stopped anti-Trump speculation. In her past career, Shaw clerked in the Supreme Court for. We were against them --. And that means that the history of it, to the extent that there is any history of it, has been written by the right and by people who are sympathizers of the defendants --. An icon used to represent a menu that can be toggled by interacting with this icon. Theyre only being persecuted now as payback for all the evil things they have done, social justice. Rachel Maddow: Did this really happen or is this a play? The game operated a certain way. Rachel Maddow: James Comey, right? And those are some of the really interesting stories that I think are very much lost to history. Chris Hayes: Howard Stern, yeah. Rachel Maddow: Yeah. Rachel Maddow: Oh, the full pamphlet. And hes effectively calling for pogroms in this country after Kristallnacht happens in November 1938. What's the story? I mean, what I do think about is not assuming that anybody knows anything, but also expecting that everybody can go everywhere, right. Rachel Maddow: -- nodding along. Sour Patch Lyds (@sourpatchlyds) October 5, 2022. Rachel Maddow: I mean, I think I learned what I like, which is helpful. Hes the ultimate example of that kind of --, Rachel Maddow: Yes. Susan was like, you know, when I met you, you were a grad student who works hard. Chris Hayes: Right, right. We have all this stuff. And that, to me, is energizing and exciting, and it opens up all these other lines of inquiry, like, one of the things Charles Gallagher writes about in his book is this character Francis Sweeney who tragically dies very young, who played this incredibly intrepid role in exposing the Christian Front in Boston, which was taking funding from the Hitler government, which was showing German military propaganda movies, which was running pogrom-style violence against Boston Jews. Rachel Maddow: I found my way to the story a little bit backwards. I think that American activism waxes and wanes and is maybe less robust on this front than it was in the '30s and '40s, in this time that Im writing about. Rachel Maddow: -- which failed. bookmark NEWS SHOW access_time 11/21/2022 person Mod chat_bubble 0. Before she went live, the White House responded,. He hates the bankers, which then, you know, one notch past that, right? 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