https://web.archive.org/web/20201007171625/http://handsonapologetics.com/Miracolo%20Euaristico_Eucharistic%20Miracle.PDF, This is the study of Buenos Aires right here but its in Italian, Jesus Christ in the Eucharist, I have come to meet and praise you. The s. marcescens bacteria is commonly found in bathrooms and feeds off of starch and sugary substances. In most cases the Eucharistic miracle under scrutiny will be observed over a period of time. I have caught myself thinking about it throughout the day and wondering how I might be able to sneak in a Mass sometime during the week, just to be with him again. The priest quickly preserved. have contained the actual primary data that was reported by the researchers that was used by the Curia to determine the miracle was authentic, and not just a summary thereof - nor was I able to find the report issued by the Metropolitan Curia itself, which would be entitled . Im really delighted by your cordiality here. Fr. in the you tube video, The Eucharistic Miracle of Buenos Aires, they stated that a DNA test was done but they could not get a genetic profile. Its members included the priests of the Archdiocese of Bialystok parish priests and builders of new churches. We demand to know whether any of these institutions have committed a crime for not doing so. I filmed the whole process. As he pronounced the words of consecration, the host and the wine transformed into what appeared to be flesh and blood. I mean, to be honest Christianity was forced onto everyone when invaders came into land. Click above to learn more and sign up for this exciting tourspace is limited and time is running out, if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'thecatholictravelguide_com-large-billboard-2','ezslot_15',102,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-thecatholictravelguide_com-large-billboard-2-0');report this ad, Click the image above to check out these great two-minute travel tip videos from Select International Tours, Join Fr. Heres the list in English. They conclude their letter by writing (paraphrased): We live in the 21st century and we understand the mechanisms governing the world. Two independent experts, professors of the Medical University in nearby Bialystok, confirmed the authenticity of the find. I have to admit it was a little frustrating that these documents are not easily available for the public to read (and be amazed by!). Good for them for being the voice of reason. 1992 and 1996, Buenos Aires, Argentina: In 1992, consecrated particles left on the corporal were put into water to dissolve and locked in the tabernacle, as the Church prescribes for disposing of consecrated hosts. I think that sometimes it is too overwhelming to be fully present to this miracle kids are screaming, one is telling us they need to go pee, or one is ripping hymnals apartall at the wrong times, not to mention all the baggage I came into church with and am still stewing over! Countless communion wafers are used every week all around the world. Umm thats not a miracle. But now a biologist, Pawel Grzesiowski says that what was found in the church was the. This is because, by definition, a miracle is less likely than a natural event. Here, substance is some nonsensical imaginary thing, similar to how the words person and being are used when trying to define/reconcile the trinitarian doctrine. 2008 miracle is very likely mold -https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/6461051/Miracle-as-communion-wafer-becomes-heart-tissue.html#:~:text=Pawel%20Grzesiowskia%2C%20a%20leading%20biologist,the%20eastern%20village%20of%20Sokolka. Ridiculous. Thats murder! A Catholic priest in Poland was doing the Holy Communion ritual recently. Jane regularly blogs at It is these case files, which presumably contain the primary data that was recorded by the researchers. A similar miracle occurred in Lanciano, Italy in 700 A.D. when a host turned to flesh in the hands of a priest during the consecration of the Mass. Jesus, taking ordinary bread, thanks his Father, breaks it with the words. And if it were actual transubstantiation, did somebody eat it? In the standard nuclear DNA tests for blood, routinely, a genetic profile is obtained. This fame persisted relatively unquestioned until 1995, when Dr. Luigi Garlaschelli, a chemistry researcher at the University of Pavia, debunked the miracle. A thorough investigation has concluded that the host did not bleed, but the change of appearance in the host was due to red bread mold [Neurospora cressa]. Two weeks later a red spot covered one-fifth of the undissolved Host. I have a very strong feeling that having this data publicly available would be very effective to draw people into the Church! On August 18, 1996 in Buenos Aires, Argentina, at Holy mass, a woman discovered a discarded host on a candleholder and brought it to Fr. In response to reading about this miracle, I did as any other person would: I googled more Eucharistic Miracles. Oh, well, probably another one of those things well have to wait until we get to heaven to understand. Both are histopathologists at the Medical University of Bialystok. Like many of us I, Ron Tesoriero, had only relatively recently read that in the history of the Catholic Church there were claims that during the Consecration at a Catholic Mass , bread and wine had transformed into what looked like flesh and blood -so called Eucharistic Miracles. The other Eucharistic Miracle investigation details are: The Eucharistic Miracle of Tixtla Mexico 21st October 2006, Forensic Pathologist involved, Dr Eduardo Sanchez Loza; The Eucharistic Miracle of Sokolka. He is all alone and hardly anyone thinks of him. * Recent Eucharistic Miracles. The Church has treated the incident in Sokolka cautiously from the beginning. He went on to accuse the Catholic church of being anti-science and mocked the Pope for condoning exorcism, angering Indian Catholics. Ron Tesoriero provides more information in: The Eucharistic miracle of Sokolka: The host is tissue from heart of a dying man sokolka.archibial.pl Aleteia - published on 09/23/17 Laboratory analyses confirm that the structure of the. Hopefully, you have taken Italian or might have a hard time reading it. Or maybe a gouged out eye for looking at Mary Magdalene. With brillo pads. Jeannettes greatest passion, besides her family, is to study the Catholic Faith and share it with others. Suppose a man walked up to you on the street and produced a series of coins seemingly from nothing, then claimed it was a miracle. The Eucharistic miracle of Sokolka: The host is tissue from the heart of a dying man, 2008 . How about this compromise, God I believe this spiritually. Then again in 1996 after a consecrated host fell to the ground and was also put in water to dissolve, it was found a few days later to have turned into a bloody substance. While the Church has not yet declared this apparent miracle in Sokolka to be authentic, eucharistic miracles in which the body or blood of Christ becomes perceptible to the human senses have occurred at various points in history, always as a divine call from heaven in order to provoke an increase in faith in Christ's own words: "This is my body" I do wish Ascension would delete my reference to the WHO report, as it detracts from all the other provable evidence. After the consecration he noticed the host begin to bleed from one side. The [skeptics] letter got a lot of attention in our media. It manifests itself as a pink, slimy substance. All information, or leads for further research, are much appreciated! Sundogs in Fargo, North Dakota. * Possibly one of the most significant findings in human history. studia muzyczne PR
When shes not writing, Jeannette enjoys studying Spanish and Japanese, gardening, and spending time with her husband and children. Catholic churches are not above a little hocus-pocus to fill the pews: bleeding statues, phony shrouds, saints bones in jars. A pathologist using the proper tools might be able (a) to identify it as a piece of a heart and (b) identify it as human. From the official statement from the Metropolitan Curia (the archdiocese) of Biaystok: On October 12, 2008, a priest distributing Communion dropped a consecrated Host. However, I find the reports on these to be only of catholic origin from what I have found which are likely biased. Yes, I recently saw something about that. Fouth, the DNA can not indicate close relationship to any DNA currently in any of the databases. After the diocese investigated it, they released the following statement, In November of 2015, it was alleged that a consecrated host from Saint Francis Xavier Church in Kearns, Utah, appeared to be bleeding. During a Christmas Day mass in 2013 a consecrated wafer or Host fell on the floor at the Church of St Jack. The evidence presented is fully compatible with a fraud. On September 21st, 1995, a viral miracle of sorts occurred. No, no, no, We need to go a step further back to debunk this nonsense who says it was a piece of heart? Are we, like Doubting Thomas, refusing to believe unless we see, touch, and feel for ourselves? Its a miracle! As for Lanciano- cant find anything regarding the WHO reviewing anything and apparently the branch of the WHO that investigated doesnt even exist. One commenter at The Poland Express sheds some light on the true meaning of the incident: Hello, But the more important news for you is that Jesus has forgiven you in the sacrament of confession! Without a video of the event, it would be quite difficult to prove how he produced the coins, and Id fully expect that the Catholic church and police would both be unable to find any evidence of fraud. why ??? Believing in the Eucharist (Real Presence) should not require scientific proof. Some people reported seeing brilliant colors spin out of the sun in a psychedelic, pinwheel pattern, and thousands of others present didn't see anything unusual at all.". Where does this article state that WHO performed any of these studies? Im not writing this to be a jerk, this is simply what I have found. What did the Poles think of the Italians stealing their miracle? Why has the Catholic Church been so slow to talk about it? I should add that I was not the most courteous of people in my entry into this conversation, either. If there are no online copies of the report submitted to the Curia of Bialystok, it would be incredible if somebody who is either a Polish citizen, or speaks Polish, could perhaps submit an inquiry to their parish priest/diocesan bishop, to see if the report could be released to the faithful (even if it is only in Polish). Why no genetic profile has been obtained in this case, where there had been no degradation of the white blood cells, is the subject of further investigation. Hi, Mark, Entry: Global Warming Lorem Ipsum Dolor Sit three children claimed to have encountered the Virgin Mary out in the countryside. * Forensic Pathologist Dr Frederick Zugibe interviewed by investigative journalist Mike Willesee and lawyer Ron Tesoriero on the Eucharistic Miracle of Buenos Aires. /r/Catholicism is a place to present new developments in the world of Catholicism, discuss theological teachings of the Catholic Church, provide an avenue for reasonable dialogue amongst people of all beliefs, and grow in our own spirituality. Want more from the Friendly Atheist? When we witness these miracles in everyday life, they give us a renewed sense of YES! to the transcendental power and beauty of God. Scripturally, we see this in John 6:48-58 and 1 Corinthians 10:16 and 11:27. It is the body, blood, soul and divinity of Jesus Christ, whether we can see that with our eyes or not. It was in October 1999 that we took a sample for testing following permission given by the local Archbishop, Jorge Bergoglio, now Pope Francis. This does suggest a quandary for vegetarians who take the Eucharist seriously and literally. Im completely with Blue Frog on this one. Lots of other things have happened too that we have no idea of unless you have someone from another country tell you about. On December 8, 1991, a priest at the Shrine of Betania in Ca, Venezuela was celebrating Mass. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaoaHNhX1pk. On the Cross, Jesus cried out, I thirst. As many saints have told us, it was not water he was thirsting forit was you. Ultimately, it is up to the bishop of the diocese whether they pursue analysis or not, firstly. When she opened the container, she saw, in the middle of the hostwhich was still largely intacta curved, bright red stain, like a blood stain: a living particle of a body. Hey we can map Jesus genome! kraj i wiat
It may help with your friends. I am so amazed at these findings. * Scientific Investigation of the Eucharistic Miracle of Buenos Aires, the facts the evidence and the findings. The important principle is that the Church has always and will always teach that you can only be married once (except if your spouse dies), and that divorce is impossible. I agree with Blue Frog. The Jewish workers' movement began to organize locally in the late 19 th century; Zionists began activity in the early 20 th century. The first registered Eucharistic miracle of the 21st century took place in the Polish city of Sokolka on October 12, 2008, when a priest accidentally dropped a consecrated Host. Should be investigated to make sure its a pig heart or something, not a human, but probably wont be, or not adequately anyway. And to expand further on Richards comment: how would doctors be qualified to identify it as human heart anyway? As he pronounced the words of consecration, the host and the wine transformed into what appeared to be flesh and blood. This will include priests, theologians, canon lawyers, medical professionals, molecular biologists and others. That seems much more probable than someone simply slipping a bit of pig heart in the communion bowl. 2. Thousands flocked to see it. Others say they dont believe in religion because its just opinion or contrary to reason. Heres quantifiable, measurable, physical evidence. So independent that they cannot be located? At the same time, we have long known that the Earth revolves around the sun, women do not become pregnant without the participation of male sperm, and the wafer is baked with rice flour. The Church teaches: in the most blessed sacrament of the Eucharist the body and blood, together with the soul and divinity, of our Lord Jesus Christ and, therefore, the whole Christ is truly, really, and substantially contained.. The specialists work was governed by the scientific norms and obligations for analyzing any scientific problem in accordance with the directives of the Scientific Ethics Committee of the Polish Academy of Sciences. In its official communiqu, the Metropolitan Curia of Bialystok stated: The Sokolka event is not opposed to the faith of the Church; rather, it confirms it. The Scientific findings that Dr Zugibe presented to myself, Ron Tesoriero, and Journalist Mike Willesee on 24 April 2004 may prove to be . The professor [Maria Sobaniec-Lotowaska of the Bialystok Medical University] saw what she wanted to see. Throughout history God has chosen on particular occasions to lift the veil that hides his presence in the Eucharist. So, if anybody either has a link to either of the documents, I would really appreciate any help in this search. Jesus in his love for Thomas condescended to let him see, touch, and feel his wounds in order to believe. Poland is very important to God his previous vicar was Polish. Nuclear DNA tests carried out have failed to produce a human genetic profile. I have found myself pondering more and more the mystery of Christ in the Eucharist since hearing about this miracle. I was reading this article out loud to my older child when my younger child waltzed in the room and asked did they call the cops? They issued a common declaration stating: The sample sent for evaluation looks like myocardial tissue. 2006 miracle was also mold according to a now deleted article- He put it in to a dish with holy water, believing that this would cleanse and dissolve it. A church commission, examiningthe miracle of Sokolka ruled out the involvement of third persons, implying that the event should not be seen as a hoax or a prank. Red bread mold is a common occurrence and can easily be confused with an authentic Eucharistic miracle. 3. You also dont get (at least as far as Im concerned) to assume a miracle is any less likely than a natural event. Please log in again. The Church has treated the incident in Sokolka cautiously from the beginning. 2013, Legnica, Poland: A consecrated Host fell and was put in water and locked in a tabernacle. Here is where my lay-persons research came to a bit of a block. By clicking Accept, you consent to the use of ALL the cookies. 20 years in the making, unseen original material seen for the first time. Searching the web indicates that mention of the WHO study is likely an urban legend. And as always, he's been there waiting for this encounter. It caused unnecessary controversy for an otherwise well-documented miracle. In that interview he also commented on the presence of white blood cells that he could see in the sample under the microscope saying, these were intact active living white blood cells.. Its freaky either way, but I apologize if I came across as assuming it has happened. https://web.archive.org/web/20201007171625/http://handsonapologetics.com/Miracolo%20Euaristico_Eucharistic%20Miracle.PDF, Hi, Mark, gospodarka, https://www2.polskieradio.pl/eo/dokument.aspx?iid=118901. By mid-January of 2009, the altered fragment of the host had dried out naturally, and remained like a blood stain or clot; since then, its appearance has not changed. Poland 12 October 2008 Forensic pathologists involved: The Eucharistic Miracle of Legnica, Poland 21st October 2013, Heading Scientific investigation was Cardiologist Dr Barbara Engel. A miracle can only be considered an explanation if the alternative is more miraculous than the miracle. Im surprised and sorry for you that it costs that much, but it does involve some work on behalf of people, its not generating profit for the Church, and the Church would prefer to not undertake it at all. With just Mike Willesee and myself in the room and a rolling camera, we were to hear and record Dr Zugibes most astounding comments, which have now been reverberated throughout the world: He commented that the heart tissue was infiltrated with white blood cells. (Have fun with that one.). He was reportedly a devout Catholicduring a Shroud conference in Richmond, VA, I happen to also attend mass there and saw Dr. Zugibe on the Communion line, and I later read that he was a eucharistic minister at the Catholic church that he regularly attended. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaoaHNhX1pk. Sorry to have to say this, but I dont believe the WHO would engage in such a study. FYI The first link in the article The Vatican International Exhibition: The Eucharistic Miracles of the World is broken and directs to a 404 error, For those who believe in God, no explanation is necessary. All Jewish parties were active there between the two world wars. The Commission has stated, the case of Sokka does not contradict the faith of the Church, but rather confirms it. All of sudden, some Italians are proclaiming its a miracle! For those who do not believe, no explanation is sufficient. Atheists demand it and yet you could spend a day searching and never find one online, Right here: https://web.archive.org/web/20201007171625/http://handsonapologetics.com/Miracolo%20Euaristico_Eucharistic%20Miracle.PDF, Excellent article, please see my reply to Mark as a senior medic. The Polish Eucharist Was Actually a What?! As with all miracles, it starts with an investigation launched by the local bishop. All Rights Reserved. Im sorry too about the misunderstanding. In these articles that are intended to accompany The Catechism in a Year podcast, we will present a travel guide through the major themes of the Catechism of the Catholic Church. They think its the heart of Jesus. There are many documented ones that go beyond the years I was interested in, but there are 4 recent ones regarding the miracle of the consecrated Host changing its visible form, starting from 1991. Again, not trying to damper anyones spirits. The other, more probably explanation, is that the whole thing was staged for the benefit of the church. is this it? They were the ones who determined the information about the tissue. * DNA testing of the Eucharistic Miracle of Buenos Aires. We knew nothing of Dr Zugibes religious belief beforehand and he was told nothing of the origin of the sample. Amen. Having regard to the finding of living cells in the Buenos Aires Case, and the evidence of what preceded the coming into existence of those cells, we are confronted with known circumstances of the spontaneous appearance of complex life from non-living matter. They were all amazed and left speechless by what they saw. This category only includes cookies that ensures basic functionalities and security features of the website. Their tale grew in popularity, culminating with an estimated 70,000 people showing up at the site on October 13th, waiting for a miracle. This totally needs to be in a movie somehow! Was there a lack of evidence? Jesus called us blessed to believe by faith alone, and so we are! All rights reserved. <3. But more is going on here. And in most of these recent miracles, the Eucharist turns into human flesh and blood. I was telling several catholic friends about Lanciano and Argentina and they had never heard of them before. He said that he had seen heart injury like that in cases where a person had been severely beaten around the chest. I was fortunate enough to attend a lecture he conducted around 2005 or not long after, in support of his final book, The Crucifixion of Jesus: A Forensic Inquiry., Please update your article. So many young people have rejected religion as unscientific. So heres the science to prove our faith. http://wdtprs.com/blog/2009/10/possible-eucharistic-miracle-in-poland/. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. But not in Christianity all the time. They were all deeply moved by what they saw. That's a very helpful link! The hoaxers are desparate to correlate a real-world observable event with the meaningless unfalsifiable mystery of transubstantiation. You do not need an annulment to be forgiven. Please answer me the following questions: Do medical courses really include classes where the students have to identify the species which random fragments of meat came from? studio reportau i dokumentu PR
But I ask everyone to pray that this phenomenon was truly a miracle, says Father Stanislaw Gniedziejko, pastor of the parish of St. Anthony in Sokolka in northeast Poland where the incident occurred. Each case involves different witnesses, different scientists and different laboratories. If our Lord has condescended to make himself so evident to us in order to be heard above the noise of our modern world, gratitude alone should impel us to respond. "Now as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and broke it, and gave it to the disciples and said, 'Take, eat; this is my body.' And he took a cup, and when he had given thanks he gave it to them, saying, 'Drink of it, all of you; for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.'" (Matthew 26:26-28) This is so exciting, one of the best . Just curious, do you honestly think the world really wants to be convinced there is something beyond the visible world? If anything did happen, it was likely an atmospheric event called a "sundog," in which light refracts off ice crystals, creating a wondrous halo of light. Perhaps he is now doing the same for us. Am I inclined to beleive? The study took several years but its results were eventually published in 2013. But how previous did tests come to the conclusion that this was human heart tissue? This is disturbing. What would they like to know? I wanted some context: does this happen regularly or is it really rare? Buenos Aires- Both of these miracles were overseen by none other than the future Pope Francis. I desperately hope that at least one of these are real as its terrifying how much science can explain, but if theyre not then I have to accept that as hard as it is. As a senior medic of over 25 years, it is not common medical practice to report actively on something that we cant explain scientifically. That is why the bishop will also appoint a team of experts to study the events from every angle, gathering all relevant data. http://www.miracolieucaristici.org/en/liste/list.html. Yes, I believe, but God, its on faith and not because Im seeing it I believe but its hard to believe fully when my senses tell me something very different. That substance has been found in each case to be heart muscle from the same part of the heart as found in the Buenos Aires case. I realize this is a bit of an out-there request, but hopefully somebody else sees how great the evangelistic potential is for this information, especially in a society that demands primary sources and hard empirical data as evidence for the truth of miracles or Catholicism. Just like all the bleeding statues where nobody ever happens to see them start bleeding, but numerous people witness the miracle afterward. Contemplation of this Eucharistic miracle has brought me into contemplation of Christ himself. radiowe centrum kultury ludowej
It was a traumatic day for Science. Mike Willesee, Journalist. The other Eucharistic Miracle investigation details are: Reason to Believe 2016. Quench my thirst for your love.. Additionally, the paper discusses the issue of simultaneous events from the perspective of physics. Pity no one is willing to risk falsification. This is the official firsthand account of the investigation of Eucharistic Miracle of Buenos Aires by Lawyer and Documentary Filmmaker, Ron Tesoriero. (see Katya messages) Catholics believe that Jesus is present in the Eucharist alive, as he was at the moment of the Resurrection. Another example of this can be found in the case of a Eucharistic miracle in Sokolka, Poland. He added that the host most likely got a damp in the tabernacle where it was stored after the mass. I really wish people would rule out the rational explanation (faked by the priest, Or a serious health & safety violation in the cracker industry) before yelling miracle. So he put it in holy water (to "cleanse" it).. 29.10.2009 13:31:00. The Feet of a Jesus Statue Drips Water. It would make all of us rethink all our concepts that we have developed through time. His blood? Even though I am sure this was somehow faked by someone, I still cannot get over how freaking creepy that is. I would recommend a check of sources. Contact them directly to get the latest information. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaoaHNhX1pk, Great article, Could I use some of your wording in a banner for Eucharistic Miracles. Then if we ever, you know, just happen to find some old bones in a cave outside Jerusalem that match. kultura
1) Did the Prosecutors Office initiate an investigation to determine the origin of the debris? wiadomoci, informacje
In our opinion, of all the tissues of living organisms this is the one that resembles it the most.. szkolenia, archiwum PR
After Mass, the sacristan changed the vessel holding the Host to something safer and it was placed in a safe in the sacristy. You can read more of them here (use google translate). I was discounted by a university based priest. nauka
(not speculated but produced) what then? How do they ascertain that it is of human origin? Sokoka is about 150 miles northeast of Warswa. If science had actually shown that bread and wine had changed to flesh and blood, why was it not front page news, for Science and Religion? Advertise with us.reach Catholics who are looking for what you have to offer. by Jeannette Williams | Nov 3, 2021 | Discovery | 51 comments. The Roman Catholic Church later recognized the weeping as a genuine miracle, swiftly endowing the statue with celebrity status. I just want to know why there is zero information on DNA testing. As you say, its hardly necessary to reference WHO at all. Check out the great priests and group leaders that travel with Select International tours. Scientists now attribute the miracle declared by Pope Urban IV when bloodappeared on the Eurcharist in 1264 to have been the bacteria. They concluded that the structure of the transformed fragment of the host is identical to the myocardial (heart) tissue of a living person who is nearing death. Totally cracked us uplol. On 7th December 2000, Mike Willesee and I, Ron Tesoriero interviewed USA Forensic Pathologist, Dr Robert Lawrence, who also examined the sample from The Eucharistic Miracle of Buenos Aires. Second, this DNA must have a Y chromosome and markers which indicate Jewish lineage. The water was untainted by the color. The Sudarium is face cloth believed to have been used to wipe the face of Christ at the time of the crucifixion which was found in the empty tomb of Christ referred to in the Gospel of John. a church in Bialystok, north east Poland - is more likely a strain of bacteria, says a biologist at a contagious diseases unit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaoaHNhX1pk, http://www.miracolieucaristici.org/en/liste/list.html, https://localtvkstu.wordpress.com/2015/12/16/bleeding-host-was-mold-not-miracle-according-to-diocese/, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq089dbcibs, The Catechism: A Guide for the Christian Life, The coagulated substance is human blood, AB blood type, with the same protein distribution as found in normal, fresh blood, The host is human muscular striated tissue of the myocardium, left ventricle (heart); arteries, veins, branch of vagus nerve, and adipose tissue all can be identified, Like the blood, the flesh is also fresh, living tissue, because it responded rapidly to all the clinical reactions distinctive of living beings as if the flesh and blood samples had been taken that day, Histological tests revealed no sign of preservation techniques of any kind, The blood is human, AB blood type; human DNA was found; white blood cells, red blood cells, hemoglobin, and mycrophages were present, indicating fresh blood; in the Tixtla miracle, the blood clearly emanated from within, because the blood on the surface had begun to coagulate but the interior blood was still fresh, as with a bleeding wound, The flesh is human myocardium tissue of the left ventricle of an inflamed heart; in the miracles from Argentina and Poland, there was evidence of trauma from the presence of thrombi, indicating repeated lack of oxygen; lesions present showed rapid cardiac spasms typical in the final phases of death. 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