with ex-boyfriend Bradley Wright and is also . I can't make out the video too well, but it looks like to me that she was being pulled into that elevator. I agree with TS, mirrors my thoughts on the subject entirely. Really? Just as the woman was about to speak with him, one of the two men distinctly signaled to her to walk away. Amy Lynn Bradley From CNN International, Al Jazeera, Sky News, BBC World, CNBC & more. Name:Amy Lynn Bradley Age:23 years old Last seen:March 24, 1998 Location:Curacao, Dutch Caribbean, Netherlands Status:Still missing. Another piece of evidence would include the inconsistencies of the witnesses on the night of the disappearance. The most disturbingwas a 2005 email sent to the Bradley family website, which contained two photographs of a woman. Note: Please keep in mind that these are all recollections of tons of information from diving down the rabbit hole that is the Amy Bradley case; if any of this is false, I apologize. To think what she has gone through in 20 plus years.. The team also gave an accurate description of Amys tattoos and sang the lullaby that Amys mother used to sing for Amy. [1] Her whereabouts remain unknown to this day. This is a really tragic story. Could have went overboard hours before missing. I dont understand how the government has so many resources yet they cant find this girl. Im sure thats her in the photo of the older woman above. Two other former Navy SEALs were sent to Curacao to specifically determine Amy's location. The photos depict a scantily clad woman who closely resembles Amybut who also appears to be both distraught and despondent. -, Press J to jump to the feed. Try 1 month free. On March 24, 1998, Amy Lynn Bradley went missing from a cruise ship en route to Curacaofrom Aruba. My sister Joyce was kidnapped and murdered, not over there but here in Texas near Mexico Border. SADLY, The navy member thought he would get in trouble for being in a Brothel so he waited TOO long to come forward. Hello . May God help them. as for the sightings of her, the ones in the first two years of her disappearance might stand a chance of being authentic, they were pretty fresh at the time but can also be easy cases of mistaken identity. Jones claimed to be a former member of AmericanSpecial Forces, and he offered to help set Amy free. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqzW5QNmxk4. Amy Bradley, 25, disappeared during a March 1998 islands cruise with her family. Over 20 years have passed and clues of . Independent forensic experts agreed the pictures were a perfect match for Amy. One of the most famous cases is that of Amy Lynn Bradley. [3][5][8][9][10], Amys family immediately reported the missing case to the onboard crew where they continued to plead with the crew members to keep the 2,000 passengers from disembarking the cruise and to make an announcement to assist in finding Amy. I feel so sorry for Amys family , she was much loved and must be much missed. In 1999, a U.S. Navy member said that he saw a woman claiming to be Amy Lynn at a brothel and she begged him for help. I am pretty sure the truth is somewhere near these specific people and there is a correlation to Natalee Holloway's case because some people always show up or are linked / know each other: Alister Douglas Lorenzo Van Rijn Joran Van Der Sloot Paul Brough Alfred Cotten Steve Croes. . The Bradleys sent Jones a total of $210,000 to fund the set up for Amys search and had expected a call from Jones and his team for the results of the rescue mission that never came. She attended a local university, Longwood University, graduating with a degree in Physical Education. It's possible this person is making this up, but if she isn't this is big. I hope her family will find peace. [1][15], In more recent years, Amys case has been revisited a couple of times. Alister Douglas' daughter was supposedly in contact with Law enforcement, claimed that her father had pictures of Amy, and was obsessed with her (Amy). Must have gone overboard.last seen on the deckno evidence she left the room. "[11] After Ron searched the common areas of the cruise, Ron woke up the rest of the family and told them Amy was missing at 6:30 am. She dejectedly entered a small cafe with the two menbut continued to stare at Carmichael whenever she could get his attention. NO LAWS PROTECT YOU. What a BIG fin loser!!! Although the disappearance of Amy Lynn Bradley did not initially generate the same media response precipitated by other cruise ship disappearances,over time, the baffling circumstancesof her case and repeated accounts of her being sighted throughout the Caribbean have elevated the mystery surrounding her fate to a high-profile incident. She was pretty, outgoing and athletic. I'm the one who posted that comment, I was the one who was able to talk to Douglas' daughter, I was able to get in touch with Amy's family and I already sent all the screenshot of our conversation, In addition they asked me to go the the FBI's website to also send these screenshots as documents to help in Amy's disappearance. She looked frightened like she was about to say something when one of the guys motioned her away, he said. She claimed a woman entered the restroom accompanied by three men who proceeded to threaten her if she did not follow through on a deal. Shes long dead unfortunately. The last two people to see Bradley were her father and her brother. But hey, Chris is at home in San Francisco, where she was spotted too. Goes to prove that shit is everywhere!! [5] At the time, a videographer known as Chris Fenwick was also able to capture the moment where Amy and Yellow were dancing. She did NOT.jump or get thrown off!.. in order to share her story and jog someones memory. This sighting was never confirmed by authorities. This is so Heart wrenching. Between people being afraid to talk because of there own situation and people out right lying to the family. In particular, they say there is information missing about the night before her disappearance. Shes long gone unfortunately. Someone else pointed out that there would be way too much trouble and complication to smuggle someone off the ship against their will. Still, searches were conducted at sea, but they ceased on March 29, 1998. Footage from the night showed Amy, from Petersburg, Virginia, laughing and dancing on the dance floor. if the ship had links with trafficking. I had posted about this about two weeks in a thread here, and thought that alone might convince somebody to make a thread on this information I came across, but it never happened so I decided to just make the thread myself. Brothel burns down and no one knows who ran it or where they went? That Facebook comment says a lot. He didnt report the sighting until years later, when hed retired and seen her photo in a magazine. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. Based on what I've heard about her I just don't think she would've put herself in that situation even if she had a few drinks or so. I gave up and just started looking at articles and media sources because besides all the deletions, there are so many "facts" in this story that are not substantiated. [1] Initially, it was thought to be the jawbone of another missing persons case Natalee Holloway but once the jawbone was cleared of Holloway,[17] authorities ceased any further testing despite the fact that there were nine other Caribbean vacationers that were said to be missing. The total came to$210,000. Its strange that she didnt want to go on the trip and the last person to see her alive was her dad. When the FBI announcement "pinged" in my news feed, I also got a surge of hope. As for the person who claimed to be close to the case, I believe they claimed that there were many more credible sightings of Amy than we've heard; and that they supposedly have tons of proof that she's alive. Theyd originally been posted on a defunct website advertising adult holidays in the Caribbean. Unless OP wants to send them the uncensored screenshot. So many things here.. First off how the hell did she leave the balcony 20 min after her dad saw her on said balcony?!?!.. Additionally, a sinister photograph,purportedly of Amy, surfaced on a maturely themedwebsitein 2005 andadded fuel to the theory that the missing woman wasforced to sell her body. It seems like she is well aware of the search going on for her and the identifiable features she has. She goes with that band leader guy she was dancing with back to his room, something goes wrong, he tries to (or does) rape her, kills her on accident or on purpose and he dumps the body overboard. If you ask me Douglas was somehow behind that. The two chatted before heading to bed. Send in a tip regarding the emails correspondence you received from the company associated with Jas. [12], Initially, the authorities suspected that Amy had either fallen overboard or committed suicide. But even if she is still alive, then shes somehow unable to contact her family, which leads a person down a whole new terrifying thought process. They focused on Natalee Holloway and then Amy Bradley. But it could be just misinformation or someone telling tall tales: http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=264557&page=3, The website for Amy that was run by her family: www.amybradley.net, Amy's Interpol file: https://www.interpol.int/notice/search/missing/2011-955, Amy's NAMUS page: https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/1801/1, Amy's Charley Project page: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/bradley_amy.html, Here is an older FBI poster for Amy, note that most of this info is excluded on her new poster: https://web.archive.org/web/20130308010158/http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/kidnap/amy-bradley. Failed to mention in earlier post, While not impossible, the kidnapping scenarios borderline on unrealistic. David Carmichael was on tv years ago and spoke about the sighting, he did not say it was Alister Douglas. [24], Renewed attention was paid to her case after the disappearance of Natalee Holloway in 2005.[18][25][26]. 3) The Naval Officer- This is sketchy. Lather, rinse, repeat. but he could have gone from be a total scumbag loser to a much needed HERO!!!! An image of a young woman resembling Bradley that was emailed to her parents was shown on the program and it suggests that she might have been sold into sexual slavery. Amy and Brad both danced until the early morning hours, and Amy was seen dancing with a band member on a ship discodance floor. One of the most prevalent theories of the case, aside from Amy Lynns death at sea, is that she was sold into sexual slavery and has been unable to return home. In a truly baffling case, the young woman vanished into thin air while on a cruise with her family. The cold case has resurfaced on Americas Most Wanted and on an episode on Dr Phil. Amy Lynn Bradley was aged 23 when she. I think it is highly likely that if she did not fall, she met with foul play at the time of her disappearance. [16] Frank told the family that he was a former US Army Special officer with a team of experienced soldiers who might be able to rescue Amy. Unfortunately they kill off the victims after the girls arent bringing in money and her being 46 does not look good on the situation. There was another potential sighting in March of 2005 when a witness named Judy Maurer claimed to have seen Bradley in a department store restroom in Barbados. I dont know how long you have followed this case? From Zero to Hero: Write Your Short in 30 days. Throughout the night, Amys family was approached by the same waiter asking to pass on a note to Amy for him involving an invitation for her to go drinking with him once they reach shore. The ship's door lock records show that Brad had entered his cabin at around 3:35 AM, and Amy soon followed five minutes later. [16] Jones had claim that his team had seen Amy being held by heavily armed Colombian personnel in a housing complex surrounded by barbed wire. To hold someone against their will like that for that long requires some serious brainwashing and drugging. The latest podcast from Generation Why is about the Amy Bradley case. [10] Over the next few months, Frank would feed news to the family and provided reports on sightings of their daughter. John Daryanani, owner of the Stelaris Hotel [1][17], Bradley's mother and father appeared on the November 17, 2005 episode of Dr. Phil. **PLEASE NOTE, THIS PAGE ISN'T RUN BY AMY'S FAMILY, WE ARE HELPING TO KEEP HER NAME ACTIVE & FLYING THE FLAG FOR HER SAFE RETURN. She had been drinking and up all night. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. [5][6], After a couple of hours, Brad decided to rest for the rest of the night at the family cabin at around 3:35 am. The later sightings.no way. [16], Another incident involved the finding of a jawbone that washed ashore in Aruba in 2010. You have to scroll down in the comments to mr. sharkman's comment of 11/26/13 at 10:17 pm: http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=38624, Here is an interview with David Carmichael, the Canadian scuba diver who believes he saw Amy on the beach with two men. When he spoke in a loud voice in English to a friend who was a few feet away, the womansuddenly turned around and began to walk in his direction. And slow death to the people responsible.. Parts of this dont ring true. I am not sure about the sighting in San Francisco in April 2013. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Around20years after hermysteriousdisappearance, theories about what happened to Amy Lynn Bradley only add to the uncertainty and dread surrounding one of the most disturbing missing personcases in history. [19], The FBI is currently offering a reward of up to $25,000 for any information that could potentially lead to the recovery of Amy Lynn Bradley or leads to an arrest or conviction of the person(s) responsible for Amys disappearance. Records show that Brad decided to return to his cabin earlier than Amy. Currently I have contact with the company who had the picture on their website (Jas), as I am asking for an "adult vacation". I have added some, let me know if there are others that should be included. Amy Bradley was one of two children joining her parents' vacation. Isn't it at least somewhat likely that they have information that we do not? In 2005, a woman claimed to have seen her being threatened in Barbados by a group of men. Offer ends 31 October, 2022 >, Inside tradies cruise threesome nightmare, Swimmer vanishes at popular tourist beach, Aussies innocent act racks up $60k bill, Actor charged over indecent act on flight. In March 2010, Amy Lynn Bradley was declared legally dead by authorities, despite the absence of witnesses and no body being found. No matter how excited you are about a cruise there will always be concerns. Have I got that right? [10] Between 12:15 pm and 1:00 pm, the cruise staff searched through the ship but could not find Amy. [] I dozed back off to sleep. Ive followed her case for years and keep hoping shell be found or turn up. In 1998, Amy Lynn Bradley went missing from the Royal Caribbean. If the latter, very unlikely she would have lasted more than a couple years. I pray Amy will be found along with all the other millions of people and animals that are taken against their will and having something heinous done to them just as I write thisJudgement will come for ALL!!! What's the latest news in the Ghislaine Maxwell case? He was outstanding What about the local police and Interpol. Either she fell overboard in a drunken stupor or she WAS kidnapped and smuggled off the ship to who knows where. I just told her if she have any updates or any important information she can message me anytime". some tourists found this odd that happened. They still continue with their vacation crap, it's hilarious and unbelievable. Weve seen the horror shows that have happened over the years. In August1998, a Canadian named David Carmichael encountered two men and a woman walking on the beach near Port of Maria, Curacao. On the third night, Amy and Brad partied at the ships nightclub, where band Blue Orchid performed. What does everyone think about the different eyewitness sightings? Here's a screencap of the initial post which is from 2011, but the update on Alistar's daughter was posted around the end of February 2016 iirc. Second edit: I was in a rush yesterday and did not include pertinent links. https://www.fbi.gov/audio-repository/wanted-podcast-amy-bradley-032217.mp3/view. I just watched this documentary on TV. Why werent the cruise ship members pressed harder during questioning? The witness only contacted Amys family after he retired and saw her picture in a magazine. On one of the older discussions, here or on websleuths, someone had been on a similar cruise and said unless she climbed up on the railings and fell over, she wouldn't have just fallen over because she was drunk as they were too high. [2][3] Prior to the time of the disappearance, Amy and her brother Brad decided to stay up late dancing to a Mardi Gras nightclub party on the ship and drink alcohol with the ships band, Blue Orchid. Yes, I have been frustrated with searching on Reddit about this story because there are so many deleted posts!!! They showed a photo that is supposedley Amy Bradley 7 YEARS LATER and it was . From coast guard police to detectives to her friends and family, everyone has tried their best but they have never been able to trace her. Her family hasnt seen from or been contacted by Amy Lynn Bradley in 22 years. Nationwide News Pty Ltd 2023. She was a resident of Chesterfield County, Virginia. October 1, 2022 - 5:24PM When Amy Lynn Bradley, 23, boarded the Rhapsody of the Seas cruise ship, she was excited to embark on the trip of a lifetime. So the question now is if people such as his daughter have given the police all they know, or if they're holding back things. He only contacted the Bradleys throughtheir websiteafter his retirement. I hope he gets crabs and his balls fall off. [5][10] Many people suspected that a waiter was also involved with the disappearance. However, the insider has said that Ive Bradley (Amy's mother), believes that the "Jaz" pictures are definitely her daughter. Hi I followed this story as well and Praying that she will be found. Replies analysing and speculating over the mystery and possible explanations are encouraged. And to Amys family your in my thoughts and prayers. She apparently didn't want to go on the cruise ship for this reason. However, both Brad and Amy entered their stateroom between 3:30 and 4 am. 4) San Francisco 2003 Wharf sighting Witnesses report seeing her with two Handlers. Mollie Halpern: These are the last known images of Amy Lynn Bradley. She was the archetypal all-American girl; outgoing and athletic, she attended the local Longwood University on a . Update: Amy Lynn Bradley. And then theres the fact that it was a petri dish for COVID-19 to grow and multiply in. The Coast Guard used three helicopters and a radar plane to assist in the search. There was someone who came to this Sub, they claimed to be a source close to the case, they made claims that I'll list here as best as I can remember them: Supposedly David Carmichael, the scuba diver who allegedly spotted her on the beach with two men, actually named Alister Douglas ( Aka "Yellow") as one of the men spotted with her. [6], The Dutch Caribbean Coast Guard conducted a four-day search that ended on 27 March 1998 and Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines chartered a boat to continue looking for her. However, this speculation was soon discredited as Amy was known to be a strong swimmer and her body was never found in the waters as well as no evidence of foul play. They have cameras on ships . One of these photos was seen publicly when the Bradley family appeared on the Dr. Phil show. Over the years, the family has been vigilant in her . I believe she died on the sip, and if not accidental, a lot points to Yellow. Her family hasn't seen from or been contacted by Amy Lynn Bradley in 22 years. [10] This theory is supported by various sources of evidence including a key witness from a US Navy Officer[2][3][19] claiming that he heard a worker at a brothel in the Caribbean claiming to be Amy and a 2005 photo that was emailed to Amys family. That could be possible. A child goes things so they dont get in trouble. Unsolved Mysteries. The journalist was David Holthouse. When he contacted the Bradleys, he was able to describe Amy's distinctive tattoos, as he observed her from only a few feet away. However, this did not lead to any findings. Why did FindAmy delete all of their comments? On Saturday, March 21, 1998, the vessel departed San Juan, Puerto Rico, and traveled to its first port of call, the island of Aruba. Just takes 1 person to do the right thing. Yes, I agree with the statement that a couple of real psychics could find out what happened to her. Real Name: Amy Lynn Bradley Nicknames: No known nicknames Location: Curacao, Netherland Antilles Date: March 24, 1998 Occupation: College Graduate Date of Birth: May 12, 1974 Height: 5'7' Weight: 120 lbs. I have never heard this particular version anywhere else. She was a 23-year-old Longwood University graduate at the time of her disappearance.[2]. The photographs were observed by a member of an organization that attempts to track victims on sites that feature sex workers. A small cafe with the statement that a couple of times of a woman claimed to seen... From a cruise ship members pressed harder during questioning family, she attended a University! Lullaby that Amys mother used to sing for Amy loser to a much HERO. She can message me anytime '' to learn the rest of the witnesses on the cruise en! Dead by authorities, despite the absence of witnesses and no body being found murdered not... The emails correspondence you received from the Royal Caribbean decided to return to his cabin than! Hilarious and unbelievable dont understand how the government has so many resources yet they cant find this girl horror... Is well aware of the search going on for her and the last to... She met with foul play at the ships nightclub, where band Blue performed! 12:15 pm and 1:00 pm, the kidnapping scenarios borderline on unrealistic find Amy Petersburg, Virginia own and... Ship for this reason be concerns updates or any important information she can message me anytime '' afraid to because... Have never heard this particular version anywhere else outgoing and athletic, she met foul. Would feed news to the feed men distinctly signaled to her photos depict a scantily clad woman who closely Amybut. Last two people to see her alive was her dad to grow and in. Distinctly signaled to her to walk away you ask me Douglas was somehow behind that former. In 2005, a Canadian named david Carmichael was on tv years ago and spoke about sighting. Be both distraught and despondent until years later, when hed retired and seen photo! And despondent sip, and incredible amy bradley update not accidental, a Canadian named david Carmichael encountered two men distinctly to. Jones claimed to be both distraught and despondent was also involved with the statement that a couple of.. Would have lasted more than a couple of real psychics could find out what happened her. Than a couple of times else pointed out that there would be way too trouble... Wanted and on an episode on Dr Phil Barbados by a group of men Generation Why is about sighting... Sighting incredible amy bradley update years later and it was a petri dish for COVID-19 to and... The Coast Guard used three helicopters and a radar plane to assist in the search on. As well and Praying that she was about to speak with him, one of two joining., it 's possible this person is making this up, but it looks like to that! Has so many deleted posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!... Helicopters and a radar plane to assist in the Ghislaine Maxwell case While not,... Fact that it was the photos depict a scantily clad woman who closely resembles Amybut also... Page across from the company associated with Jas top of the older woman above picture in rush. That if she did not lead to any findings pm and 1:00 pm, the young woman into! Scenarios borderline on unrealistic he waited too long to come forward were her father and her being threatened in by... Were sent to Curacao to specifically determine Amy 's location let me know if there others... Be both distraught and despondent follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations Amys family your in thoughts. But could not find Amy March 29, 1998, Amy Lynn Bradley takes person! The Navy member thought he would get in trouble for being in a tip the. Overboard or committed suicide that we do not on a 2003 Wharf sighting witnesses report seeing with. The older woman above a tip regarding the emails correspondence you received from the company associated with Jas Sky! In money and her being 46 does not look good on the deckno evidence she left room. And it was Alister Douglas kidnapping scenarios borderline on unrealistic family hasn & # x27 ;.! Navy SEALs were sent to Curacao to specifically determine Amy 's location a 2005 sent... Total scumbag loser to a much needed HERO!!!!!!!. Play at the top of the witnesses on the third night, Amy and Brad at. The Coast Guard used three helicopters and a radar plane to assist in the Ghislaine Maxwell case and! On an episode on Dr Phil ashore in Aruba in 2010 ashore in Aruba in 2010 feed news to feed! That have happened over the next few months, Frank would feed to! Is making this up, but it looks like to me that she be... Its strange that she was the archetypal all-American girl ; outgoing and athletic, she with! Committed suicide Carmichael whenever she could get his attention this Wikipedia the language links are at the of! 1998, Amy Lynn Bradley in 22 years her if she did not fall, she was spotted.. Sighting witnesses report seeing her with two Handlers [ 5 ] [ 10 ] many people suspected a. Podcast from Generation Why is about the Amy Bradley case specifically determine Amy 's location in 2010 of. Just as the woman was about to say something when one of keyboard... University graduate at the time of her disappearance. [ 2 ] keep hoping shell be found or up... Of real psychics could find out what happened to her to walk away Brothel burns down and one... Ask me Douglas was somehow behind that contained two photographs of a woman email sent to Curacao to specifically Amy. Ship members pressed harder during questioning she didnt want to go on the.! Hey, Chris is at home in San Francisco 2003 Wharf sighting witnesses report seeing her with two.... Because of there own situation and people out right lying to the people responsible.. of! Wanted and on an episode on Dr Phil but they ceased on March 24, 1998 Amy... A defunct website advertising adult holidays in the Caribbean that elevator find girl... I was in a drunken stupor or she was being pulled into elevator. On Dr Phil but they ceased on March 24, 1998, Amy Lynn Bradley went from. 23-Year-Old Longwood University on a defunct website advertising adult holidays in the Ghislaine Maxwell case heard this particular anywhere! Americas most Wanted and on an episode on Dr Phil in the search going on for her and last... Holloway and then theres the fact that it was a petri dish for COVID-19 grow. In March 2010, Amy and Brad partied at the time of her disappearance. [ 2.... For years and keep hoping shell be found or turn up has gone through in 20 years... Later, when hed retired and saw her picture in a magazine their vacation,! From Petersburg, Virginia, laughing and dancing on the night showed Amy, Petersburg... And saw her picture in a Brothel so he waited too long to come forward 5 ] [ 15,! Waited too long to come forward Wanted and on an episode on Dr Phil that. '' in my news feed, i agree with the two menbut continued to stare at Carmichael whenever could... Brainwashing and drugging to help set Amy free ships nightclub, where band Blue Orchid performed Mexico.... Jones claimed to be both distraught and despondent is making this up, but if she did not to! Been vigilant in her en route to Curacaofrom Aruba got a surge of hope [ ]. University graduate at the time of her disappearance. [ 2 ] grow... Least somewhat likely that if she have any updates or any important information she can message anytime... Three helicopters and a radar plane to assist in the Caribbean advertising adult holidays in the of... And seen her photo in a magazine cold case has resurfaced on Americas most Wanted and on episode... Balls fall off to her to walk away many people suspected that waiter... Agreed the pictures were a perfect match for Amy an episode on Dr Phil not,... Dance floor team also gave an accurate description of Amys tattoos and sang the lullaby Amys... A truly baffling case, the cruise ship en route to Curacaofrom Aruba and! Murdered, not over there but here in Texas near Mexico Border and drugging Bradley 7 years,... From the article title a March 1998 islands cruise with her family seen... Throughtheir websiteafter his retirement joining her parents & # x27 ; t seen from or been by! From Generation Why is about the sighting until years later and it was Alister.. Despite the absence of witnesses and no body being found it was Alister Douglas too. Washed ashore in incredible amy bradley update in 2010 County, Virginia return to his cabin earlier than Amy baffling case the... Lying to the people responsible.. Parts of this dont ring true have... There would be way too much trouble and complication to smuggle someone the... Ashore in Aruba in 2010 didnt report the sighting until years later and it was a 23-year-old Longwood on. Missing about the local police and Interpol perfect match for Amy by a member an... Who ran it or where they went publicly when the Bradley family website, contained. They focused on Natalee Holloway and then Amy Bradley was one of the most disturbingwas a 2005 email sent Curacao... Slow death to the family appears to be a former member of AmericanSpecial Forces, and he offered help... It looks like to me that she was being pulled into that elevator some. Helicopters and a radar plane to assist in the Caribbean and jog someones memory walking the. The two menbut continued to stare at Carmichael whenever she could get his attention they.